Comments on: Agile 2009 Monday Conference Sessions that catch my attention http://agilepainrelief.com/notesfromatooluser/2009/08/agile-2009-monday-conference-sessions-that-catch-my-attention.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=agile-2009-monday-conference-sessions-that-catch-my-attention Best practices for your goals Sat, 19 May 2012 03:39:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Jesse Gibbs (Atlassian Employee) http://agilepainrelief.com/notesfromatooluser/2009/08/agile-2009-monday-conference-sessions-that-catch-my-attention.html/comment-page-1#comment-56 Jesse Gibbs (Atlassian Employee) Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://agilepainrelief.com/2009/08/agile-2009-monday-conference-sessions-that-catch-my-attention/#comment-56 "Effective code reviews in agile teams" is being delivered by members of Atlassian, but I hope that doesn't deter anyone from attending. The focus of the talk is how to make code review an integral and non-burdensome part of an agile process. At Atlassian we're of course biased towards using a tool-based approach to code review, and towards using Crucible, but that doesn't mean you can't have an effective process with other tools such as Smart Bear Code Collaborator, ReviewBoard, etc. If you're team is still holding meetings to do code reviews, or if you don't do them at all because they take too much time, then I recommend checking out this talk. Tool-assisted code review is a great fit for teams using an agile process, especially if they are distributed like we are at Atlassian. “Effective code reviews in agile teams” is being delivered by members of Atlassian, but I hope that doesn’t deter anyone from attending. The focus of the talk is how to make code review an integral and non-burdensome part of an agile process. At Atlassian we’re of course biased towards using a tool-based approach to code review, and towards using Crucible, but that doesn’t mean you can’t have an effective process with other tools such as Smart Bear Code Collaborator, ReviewBoard, etc. If you’re team is still holding meetings to do code reviews, or if you don’t do them at all because they take too much time, then I recommend checking out this talk. Tool-assisted code review is a great fit for teams using an agile process, especially if they are distributed like we are at Atlassian.

]]> By: Mark Levison http://agilepainrelief.com/notesfromatooluser/2009/08/agile-2009-monday-conference-sessions-that-catch-my-attention.html/comment-page-1#comment-57 Mark Levison Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://agilepainrelief.com/2009/08/agile-2009-monday-conference-sessions-that-catch-my-attention/#comment-57 Jesse - thanks for the reply. My remarks were not well considered every Atlassian Employee I've encountered so far was decent. However the outline for the session really doesn't make clear that this approach would work well with any other tool, its not too late to amend it. Better stated I don't think tools are the best way to conduct a code review: <a href="http://www.notesfromatooluser.com/2006/12/online_code_rev.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.notesfromatooluser.com/2006/12/online_code_rev.html</a> as you see I've being saying it for years. The usual caveat applies if your distributed you will likely need a tool, but otherwise I don't like tools getting in the way of humans. How often do you see email exchanges with people who sit 5 ft apart. Jesse – thanks for the reply. My remarks were not well considered every Atlassian Employee I’ve encountered so far was decent. However the outline for the session really doesn’t make clear that this approach would work well with any other tool, its not too late to amend it.

Better stated I don’t think tools are the best way to conduct a code review: http://www.notesfromatooluser.com/2006/12/online_code_rev.html as you see I’ve being saying it for years.

The usual caveat applies if your distributed you will likely need a tool, but otherwise I don’t like tools getting in the way of humans. How often do you see email exchanges with people who sit 5 ft apart.

]]> By: Wojciech Seliga http://agilepainrelief.com/notesfromatooluser/2009/08/agile-2009-monday-conference-sessions-that-catch-my-attention.html/comment-page-1#comment-58 Wojciech Seliga Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://agilepainrelief.com/2009/08/agile-2009-monday-conference-sessions-that-catch-my-attention/#comment-58 I hope that no participant of our talk today had impression that this session was like a vendor talk. Sure, we based demos on Atlassian tools, but it's just because we happen to use them on a daily basis and we could present something real and hopefully interesting. However I mentioned a few times that _any_ tool could be used instead. So it was not about tools, but rather about best practices and pitfalls. @Jesse: thanks for the explanation. Cheers, Wojciech Seliga I hope that no participant of our talk today had impression that this session was like a vendor talk. Sure, we based demos on Atlassian tools, but it’s just because we happen to use them on a daily basis and we could present something real and hopefully interesting. However I mentioned a few times that _any_ tool could be used instead. So it was not about tools, but rather about best practices and pitfalls.

@Jesse: thanks for the explanation.

Cheers,
Wojciech Seliga

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