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		<title>By: Práticas para a qualidade &#8211; Processo Ágil de Desenvolvimento &#171; Sistema Embarcado Livre</title>
		<link>http://agilepainrelief.com/notesfromatooluser/2008/12/agile-for-hardware-and-embedded-systems.html/comment-page-1#comment-30861</link>
		<dc:creator>Práticas para a qualidade &#8211; Processo Ágil de Desenvolvimento &#171; Sistema Embarcado Livre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dave Rooney</title>
		<link>http://agilepainrelief.com/notesfromatooluser/2008/12/agile-for-hardware-and-embedded-systems.html/comment-page-1#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Rooney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another name to lookup is Ron Morsicato.  He worked (or possibly still works) with Nancy at Agile Rules.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another name to lookup is Ron Morsicato.  He worked (or possibly still works) with Nancy at Agile Rules.</p>
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		<title>By: alandd</title>
		<link>http://agilepainrelief.com/notesfromatooluser/2008/12/agile-for-hardware-and-embedded-systems.html/comment-page-1#comment-104</link>
		<dc:creator>alandd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again, Mark, you are compiling valuable information for the community.  Thank you!

We are implementing Scrum as our first agile method.  We develop storage devices with software, VHDL and hardware design all involved.  So far the software people are starting to grasp the workings and benefits.  But the hardware people believe waterfall is the only way and want examples.  This collection of articles will go far to get the information we need!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, Mark, you are compiling valuable information for the community.  Thank you!</p>
<p>We are implementing Scrum as our first agile method.  We develop storage devices with software, VHDL and hardware design all involved.  So far the software people are starting to grasp the workings and benefits.  But the hardware people believe waterfall is the only way and want examples.  This collection of articles will go far to get the information we need!</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://agilepainrelief.com/notesfromatooluser/2008/12/agile-for-hardware-and-embedded-systems.html/comment-page-1#comment-105</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing. Just as I asked about this subject on a couple groups and am looking to help a client in such a situation, this shows up. Serendipity, you make me smile! Thanks so much for this...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing. Just as I asked about this subject on a couple groups and am looking to help a client in such a situation, this shows up. Serendipity, you make me smile! Thanks so much for this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Baker</title>
		<link>http://agilepainrelief.com/notesfromatooluser/2008/12/agile-for-hardware-and-embedded-systems.html/comment-page-1#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>John Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mark for a good summary.
On Johanna&#039;s point of good interaction with supplier... one of my clients is struggling with that... They have had a sole source provider of controller boards where the engineers can communicate rapidly during development and therefore they get rapid and accurate protoptyic boards. Unfortunately the procurement department is demanding open bid from multiple sources to ensure lowest price. So the value of the communications channel established over time is not factored in. Anyone else experienced this?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mark for a good summary.<br />
On Johanna&#8217;s point of good interaction with supplier&#8230; one of my clients is struggling with that&#8230; They have had a sole source provider of controller boards where the engineers can communicate rapidly during development and therefore they get rapid and accurate protoptyic boards. Unfortunately the procurement department is demanding open bid from multiple sources to ensure lowest price. So the value of the communications channel established over time is not factored in. Anyone else experienced this?</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Gruber</title>
		<link>http://agilepainrelief.com/notesfromatooluser/2008/12/agile-for-hardware-and-embedded-systems.html/comment-page-1#comment-107</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Gruber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my clients are doing agile (now under the hood, since they were taken over by a Six-Sigma heavy-hitter) using set-top-boxes in highly constrained Java environments.  They have spent a few years figuring out how to deliver incrementally on an embedded platform, but have begun to get it.  Having gone towards minimalism over big-fat-architecture is one area, with highly-modular, decoupled designs which allow for less &quot;just in case&quot; code being deployed when unneeded have all really helped.  Their best piece of work shed 90% of the code base, tripled the functionality of the piece, and made 10-100x performance gains over the older module.  And this was &quot;arrived at&quot; by test-driving the feature-set from scratch.  They retrofitted this system with the old API, and ended up being able to remove the older module whole-sale.  It was kind of beautiful, really.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my clients are doing agile (now under the hood, since they were taken over by a Six-Sigma heavy-hitter) using set-top-boxes in highly constrained Java environments.  They have spent a few years figuring out how to deliver incrementally on an embedded platform, but have begun to get it.  Having gone towards minimalism over big-fat-architecture is one area, with highly-modular, decoupled designs which allow for less &#8220;just in case&#8221; code being deployed when unneeded have all really helped.  Their best piece of work shed 90% of the code base, tripled the functionality of the piece, and made 10-100x performance gains over the older module.  And this was &#8220;arrived at&#8221; by test-driving the feature-set from scratch.  They retrofitted this system with the old API, and ended up being able to remove the older module whole-sale.  It was kind of beautiful, really.</p>
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		<title>By: Franco</title>
		<link>http://agilepainrelief.com/notesfromatooluser/2008/12/agile-for-hardware-and-embedded-systems.html/comment-page-1#comment-108</link>
		<dc:creator>Franco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another resource on this topic: &quot;Mocking the Embedded World: Test-Driven Development, Continuous Integration, and Design Patterns&quot; by Michael Karlesky, Greg Williams, William Bereza, Matt Fletcher.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.methodsandtools.com/archive/archive.php?id=59&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.methodsandtools.com/archive/archive.php?id=59&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another resource on this topic: &#8220;Mocking the Embedded World: Test-Driven Development, Continuous Integration, and Design Patterns&#8221; by Michael Karlesky, Greg Williams, William Bereza, Matt Fletcher.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.methodsandtools.com/archive/archive.php?id=59" rel="nofollow">http://www.methodsandtools.com/archive/archive.php?id=59</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andreas Stucki</title>
		<link>http://agilepainrelief.com/notesfromatooluser/2008/12/agile-for-hardware-and-embedded-systems.html/comment-page-1#comment-109</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Stucki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the projects get more hard(-ware), even into mechanics, we try to blend lean principles with agile. Resulting in a process with milestones/ releases (typically integration gates) because this is important for most of our customers, if you are interested: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.solcept.ch/en/company/processes/scprocess.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.solcept.ch/en/company/processes/scprocess.html&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.solcept.ch/en/services/engineering/credo.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.solcept.ch/en/services/engineering/credo.html&lt;/a&gt; .
Comments invited...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the projects get more hard(-ware), even into mechanics, we try to blend lean principles with agile. Resulting in a process with milestones/ releases (typically integration gates) because this is important for most of our customers, if you are interested: <a href="http://www.solcept.ch/en/company/processes/scprocess.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.solcept.ch/en/company/processes/scprocess.html</a> and <a href="http://www.solcept.ch/en/services/engineering/credo.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.solcept.ch/en/services/engineering/credo.html</a> .<br />
Comments invited&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rolf</title>
		<link>http://agilepainrelief.com/notesfromatooluser/2008/12/agile-for-hardware-and-embedded-systems.html/comment-page-1#comment-110</link>
		<dc:creator>Rolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to let you know that you are not alone. As hardware developers we focus on understanding how we can merge the &quot;first time right&quot; methods that we have been perfecting for so long with the lean/agile ideas of early feedback and short iterative cycles. It&#039;s not simple, but we too believe that there is something to be gained - especially in the customer/project experience (which connects heavily with funding :-). A little blurb here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.axcon.dk/blog/process/agile-hardware-development.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.axcon.dk/blog/process/agile-hardware-development.htm&lt;/a&gt;
Feel free to leave comments!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to let you know that you are not alone. As hardware developers we focus on understanding how we can merge the &#8220;first time right&#8221; methods that we have been perfecting for so long with the lean/agile ideas of early feedback and short iterative cycles. It&#8217;s not simple, but we too believe that there is something to be gained &#8211; especially in the customer/project experience (which connects heavily with funding :-). A little blurb here: <a href="http://www.axcon.dk/blog/process/agile-hardware-development.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.axcon.dk/blog/process/agile-hardware-development.htm</a><br />
Feel free to leave comments!</p>
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