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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its mostly garbage anyway, invented by &#039;developers&#039; in positions of management, who can&#039;t code for shit, pushing the blame back on those that can.

If outcomes aren&#039;t achieved it&#039;s because the coders weren&#039;t agile enough - yeah right!

Lots of stupid meetings that throw actual developer productivity out the window.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its mostly garbage anyway, invented by &#8216;developers&#8217; in positions of management, who can&#8217;t code for shit, pushing the blame back on those that can.</p>
<p>If outcomes aren&#8217;t achieved it&#8217;s because the coders weren&#8217;t agile enough &#8211; yeah right!</p>
<p>Lots of stupid meetings that throw actual developer productivity out the window.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Rooney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Rooney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, Mark, to me you don&#039;t come across as fanatical!  &#039;Course, maybe that&#039;s because I&#039;m dogmatic about the same things as you. ;)

I posted a blog entry a while back called Agile Circa 1988 (http://agileartisan.blogspot.com/2006/02/agile-circa-1988.html) about a team I worked with from 1992-1998.  Prior to a forced marriage with a large, monolithic gov&#039;t department, that group was as Agile as any I&#039;ve seen.  I worked with a group more recently that started with agile practices, but devolved over time and is now pretty well back to classic waterfall, albeit with 4 month releases.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, Mark, to me you don&#8217;t come across as fanatical!  &#8216;Course, maybe that&#8217;s because I&#8217;m dogmatic about the same things as you. ;)</p>
<p>I posted a blog entry a while back called Agile Circa 1988 (<a href="http://agileartisan.blogspot.com/2006/02/agile-circa-1988.html" rel="nofollow">http://agileartisan.blogspot.com/2006/02/agile-circa-1988.html</a>) about a team I worked with from 1992-1998.  Prior to a forced marriage with a large, monolithic gov&#8217;t department, that group was as Agile as any I&#8217;ve seen.  I worked with a group more recently that started with agile practices, but devolved over time and is now pretty well back to classic waterfall, albeit with 4 month releases.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Brumund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl Brumund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,
You&#039;ve _always_ been a fanatic.  Isn&#039;t that why we love you?

Or not, depending on our point of view, remembering the Star Wars quote (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.notesfromatooluser.com/2009/01/do-you-suspect-you-have-a-less-than-productive-person-on-your-team.html)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.notesfromatooluser.com/2009/01/do-you-suspect-you-have-a-less-than-productive-person-on-your-team.html)&lt;/a&gt;


...karl
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,<br />
You&#8217;ve _always_ been a fanatic.  Isn&#8217;t that why we love you?</p>
<p>Or not, depending on our point of view, remembering the Star Wars quote (<a href="http://www.notesfromatooluser.com/2009/01/do-you-suspect-you-have-a-less-than-productive-person-on-your-team.html)" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.notesfromatooluser.com/2009/01/do-you-suspect-you-have-a-less-than-productive-person-on-your-team.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.notesfromatooluser.com/2009/01/do-you-suspect-you-have-a-less-than-productive-person-on-your-team.html</a>)</p>
<p>&#8230;karl</p>
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