Customer Retention Department – Vonage Customer Service Sucks

or Missing in Action – Vonage Customer Service

For the last two days I’ve been trying to cancel our Vonage service. Not because of quality or price issues. Just because we no longer needed a second line in our house. On Tuesday morning (June 12) I called Vonage to cancel. After twenty minutes and two dropped calls I finally reached their call centre over a very crackly line (do they run their call centre over VOIP?). The person I talked to apologised and said they’re computers were down, would I please call back after lunch. I tried again in the mid afternoon. Things had improved it only took five minutes to answer my call (another crackle line). This person said the computers are still down – please call again tomorrow. Which brings to this evening’s conversation (over a good line):

Vonage: Welcome to the best digital phone service How can I help you?phone-off-the-hook-small

Mark: I would like to cancel my Vonage account.

Vonage: May please have your account number, user id and email address.

Mark: account ####### user id ##### and email #######

Vonage: Why are you canceling the account.

Mark: Because we no longer need the second line.

Vonage: Unfortunately I can’t do that for you. You will have to call back during regular business hours and talk to Customer Retention

Mark: But I don’t want to be retained I just want to close my Vonage account.

Vonage: I’m sorry sir I can’t do that, you have to call back during regular business hours.

Mark: So I’ve already spent 40 minutes of my time (during a working day) trying to cancel my account and now you expect to spend more. Would Vonage like me to bill for my time?

Vonage: I’m sorry sir I can’t do that, you have to call back during regular business hours.

The conversation repeated itself for another few minutes. Clearly the rep had a script and couldn’t say or do anything more.

When I finally succeed in talking to Customer retention I will have to pay a $40 fee to cancel. This is really annoying.

Up until this evening I would’ve considered using Vonage again – not anymore.

So what I’ve learned Vonage doesn’t empower its front line service reps to do anything more than take your money. Vonage has an entire department devoted to retaining you and its not the customer service department. Vonage is prepared to waste your time. This is beginning to sound a bit like the AOL Horror story (original). Others have had problems cancelling Vonage. Yet more. You get the idea – but I will say it once more Vonage Customer service sucks. But what I don’t get why wouldn’t they have a simple option to do this online? Typepad does in fact I’ve never spoken to a human being at typepad.

Have you had Vonage customer service pain? Do tell.

The end of the story.

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  • http://www.fonz.net ilan

    I’ve been going through the same all week. I just haven’t had time to call during business hours, since they run to 8pm EST, which is only 5pm here in Los Angeles.

  • M from Austin

    Oh God, we tried for months to get our Vonage working again after they (time warner) changed the settings on our dsl (our apartment building is wired) and went through the whole rigamarole with the outsourced call center (try powering off your modem, then on, sir?), over and over, occasionally getting connected with the higher-level techs in New Jersey who were patronizing and ultimately unhelpful. One night they put us (calling on a cell phone I might add) on hold for three hours, then disconnected without picking up. Then there was the time they pulled the same stunt in the morning when my husband was trying to get to work. Needless to say, we were mad and that was the last straw.

    I called the number you see in your vonage control panel when you click on something like “cancel vonage” which is a direct line to the cancellation people. The guy asked why I wanted to cancel, listened to my story, kept muttering “wow”, and finally said, and I quote, “I can see why you want to cancel. Our customer service SUCKS.”

    We did end up paying the disconnect fee, but it was worth it to be rid of them. Never, ever again.

  • http://profile.typekey.com/chasmyn/ chasmyn

    It took me two months to cancel our Vonage account – I cannot even describe to you the hell they put us through and the number of calls it took to get it all done. I will NEVER EVER recommend or use them again.

  • Sj

    We had the same problem. We never could find a tech rep who could tell us how to intigrate Vonage with a home wireless set-up so after four days of not having phone service we canceled. It took us six days and innumerable (cell)phone calls for us to finally cancel. Interestingly we had the exact same problems- not the right call tim, dropped calls, retention dept, etc. Vonage is the worst company I have ever dealt with in my life. I heartily discourage anybody from ever using them.

  • Sj

    We had the same problem. We never could find a tech rep who could tell us how to intigrate Vonage with a home wireless set-up so after four days of not having phone service we canceled. It took us six days and innumerable (cell)phone calls for us to finally cancel. Interestingly we had the exact same problems- not the right call tim, dropped calls, retention dept, etc. Vonage is the worst company I have ever dealt with in my life. I heartily discourage anybody from ever using them.

  • digruntled

    I just want to cancel my Vonage account and going through the same pain. Aren’t there any laws that mandate companies to provide appropriate level of customer support while canceling an account? They are available 24×7 for taking money. Can we sue Vonage for this? Afterall, if I spend an hour during normal business hours that directly equates to $$ out of my pay since I don’t have the liberty to use my work time for personal matters.

  • Jan Wilder

    Even if you DO call during normal business hours, and they SAY they have cancelled your account, they will still CHARGE you for ever and ever and ever and ever…I hope this company goes under SOON so then they can’t charge me for my cancelled service anymore. If anyone knows of a class action suit I would like to hear about it because I would like to throw my hat in the ring.

  • http://danube.com/blog/michaeljames Michael James

    I’ve been using SkypeOut with mixed results. Their customer support is just terrible. The sound quality is usually good (if you don’t mind the 500ms delay) when you have a good broadband connection.

    It’s really cool when it works, and I lowered my cell phone bill from $500ish/month to $150/month (I travel every week).

    One nice thing about having a telephone in the computer is I can automate the call into my daily stand up.
    http://scrumscreener.wordpress.com/2007/06/10/ical-applescript-skypeout-conferences-that-call-you/

    –mj

  • Terral Artis

    I had the same horror story today while trying to cancel one line on my Vonage account. I called at 5 PM Eastern today and cancelled one of my two Vonage residential lines. I explained to the rep that I did not need the second line, and just wanted to switch to a single number. The rep dropped the one line and I was satisfied with my call.

    A few hours later, I check my email and see that Vonage charged me $39.99 with no explanation of the charge. I logged into my account and found that they had charged me a cancellation fee for dropping one of my two lines.

    After getting the charge, I called Vonage customer service (20 minute wait) and spoke with a rep by the name of Cherinna (employee# 12376). She explained to me that this fee is normal and it could not be waived. I asked to speak to a Supervisor, and she said that she was a supervisor, and if I wanted to speak to someone else, I would have to call back. I told Cherinna (she said that she was from the Philippines) that calling back was unacceptable, and asked her if $40 was worth losing a valued customer. She said that there was nothing that she could do. I then asked if I could re-activate the old number and reverse the fee, which she said that I could not.

    This is poor customer service, and I will be canceling my other line for a fine of $39.99 ASAP if they do not give me a service credit of $39.99. I will never recommend Vonage to my friends again if this is not taken care of immediately. I will also be speaking with the Better Business Bureau.

  • http://www.sunrocket.com Shawn

    Vonage has been very very pushy about all kinds of things. A few months ago, my wife and I called-in to try and get our PAP2 reset and a rep who could not speak good English asked my several times if I wanted a second line. I clearly said NO many times and on my next months statement, I was charged for a second line even though I didn’t want one. I immediately called my bank and told them an unauthorized transaction has been charged on my account and they took care of it.

    Word of advise…. if you want to cancel service with Vonage, log into the control panel before it goes into grace state, and manually change the credit card number on file to an older card that is no longer in-use… or use a Pay-Pal card that is not linked to any bank account and after 2 months of no collecting funds, vonage will close your account.

    You may want to check-out Sunrocket for VoIP service. Very high standards and way more features than Vonage.

  • Brian Cummings

    After cancelling my vonage account in May and moving to a land line since so many calls were dropped that my clients were complaining, I continued to get monthly bills. I just spent about 40 minutes on the line speaking (?) with a heavily accented English speaker who, no matter what I said, continued to read these rote answers to questions I didn’t ask. I finally hung up, called my credit card company, disputed the charges already logged there and cancelled the account, which is the only way it seems I can get them to stop billing me. VOIP, at least the way Vonage does it, ain’t ready for prime time.

    Brian Cummings

  • Donkeypunch

    Yes, Sunrocket seems like an excellent choice! *snickers*

  • Jason

    Just wanted to add that I had the same problems with Vonage. Had my number ported to Verizon Wireless and planned on returning to Vonage later (military extended transition). However, I got charged twice after cancelling and could not get my money back even though service wasn’t used. Also had the experience with calling on Saturday to try to terminate service with no success. However, their new sign ups were taking calls and quickly–this is a really very unethical business practice. I would have went back to them because my service was good, but when businesses are this bad in customer service, I don’t think we should support this. I can honestly say it was my worst experience with customer service EVER! I’ll probably get charged a termination fee as well. They can have this final payment–that’s why the stock is not even $2.

  • Kevin

    I hate Vonage. I had been with them for a few years and decided to cancel. It took me 45 minutes of them hassling me and offering me deals which I refused. I kept telling the rep to just cancel because I didn’t need the phone. She just kept on talking, wouldn’t shut up. I screamed at her (made my entire office look at me to boot). Wouldn’t take no for an answer even after that. She finally said it was cancelled. 2 months later I’m still getting charged.

    I called again and was presented with the same bull from them. I ended up raising my voice but the new rep wouldn’t listen and kept hassling me. I ended up swearing at her (something I try not to do) she goaded me into it by not listening that I just wanted to cancel the phone. Even after she told me she cancelled it she kept going on wiht the sales pitch.

    I will never use vonage again. I have a cancellation number this time but have not gotten the email yet. I’m going to call my credit card company and have them reverse the last 2 charges.

  • Glenda Rutherford

    We are trying to switch from Vonage to Comcast. We’ve been trying to do this for close to two months. Every time Comcast makes an appointment to come to our house, Vonage then refuses to give up our number to them. We usually get the call the night before the appointment. Today the Comcast people came to the house and got as far as they could, only to find that once again Vonage refused to turn over the number! That was just the last straw for me. I was online and couldn’t find a generic sort of customer service number for Vonage. Does anyone have one? If I can’t get anywhere with talking to them, we’ll just change our number and be done with it, even though that will be horribly inconvenient. I am also going to contact my congressional delegation about them. One thing is guaranteed; I will go everything in my power to discourage people from ever using Vonage! What an unprofessional, sorry excuse for a legitimate business!

    Thanks,
    Glenda

  • Diane

    Vonage can be reached at 1-VONAGEHELP (1-866-243-4357).

    I had heard of these issues and actually set up a seperate phone number with Time Warner (I love Vonage ammenities–seeing all my history, voice mail in my email inbox, but my cable service is always having outages and I wanted TimeWarner to pay for the missed phone service as well!). Since I was aware of the issues, I set up the additional number before calling to cancel. They are tough!! They gave me a free month and I gave up. I just called again (right now!) and told them I was writing a review. She cancelled my service right then. Go figure!

  • Andrew C.

    I’ve been trying to cancel my Vonage account since I moved from TX to CA last Nov. It is extremely frustrating to call them and been through countless waiting and dropping calls. And when I finally talked to a woman in account cancellation, she drive me nut with all those ridiculous questions. After giving her my old service phone number, account number, my email address used to sign up for the service, she started asking me about the amounts they’ve been charging me. That’s odd, don’t you have all those information on file, Vonage? But fine, with my credit card statements on hand, I started citing out the amounts they charged me each months since Nov, 07. Note that they’ve been continuing to charge me even I have cancelled the service last Nov, and slightly different amount each month.

    I thought I am about home free, but no! she then asked me what is the latest charge? I stated the amount they charge me for the month of Mar. She said that’s is not the latest charge. So it much has been the one for April which I do not know since I haven’t received credit card statement for April yet. At this point I am really mad, and I can hardly believe what they are trying to do just to avoid cancelling my account. The rest of it is ugly, and I see no point repeating it here.

    I just hope people is aware of this practice at Vonage, and think twice when they want to sign on their their VOIP service. It might not worth it.

  • vonage customer care

    hi, i was working at the vonage customer service (if its possible to call it that way) in chile, southamerica, it has been the worst job experience of my life, not only for me, but for my ex coworkers as well, they just do it because they need the money, but anyway, i just want to share my horrible experience with you, VONAGE is a terrible company, and im guessing that if you read this you will agree with me, first of all, lets start with the activations… activations are done in india, alright, i must admit that they have some great customer service representatives, and theire very nice, but… they have a lot of people that dont even partially speak acceptable english, and they activate accounts that people didnt even ask for, i heard of cases in which they told the customers to give them the credit card to “check if the service is available in their area” and the custumers call customer service 3 months later saying that they never subscribed with vonage, and we tried to keep them from canceling service, because if we transferred them we would lose our bonus, and would get paid less, if they got transferred to “account management dept” which supposedly is in new jersey, you would get another person with an indian accent, but, thats not the point, in their cases on the RETENTION dept which is their real function, they simply have to make it hard for the customers to cancel, otherwise they lose their incentives too, they place them on hold forever hoping they just hang up, that way they dont have to cancel the account, they offer a million things for the person to keep the service, and if they do, they just lose the money back guarantee, and if they get to cancel they have to pey for disconnection fees and rebate recovery fees, so in short… theire just screwed one way or the other. well, now let me talk a little bit about my job at the general billing customer service dept. well, its just a terrible job, we had an awful 1 month and a half training, in which we got poor customer service and program info and we ended up watching stupid youtube videos, they told us that they would pay us one thing, and at the end we gor paid almost half and they figured out nonsense speach to convince us that what they paid us was right and that on the second month we gould get paid better, once we were on the floor, without having a clue about what we were doing, we got yelled at all the time for screwups made by other agents or simply by vonage, well, its no wonder when you have an outsourced customer service dept. in a country in which english isnt the native language, i must admit that there are a lot of great agents and lots of people that speak a decent english, but thats simply not enough, we had call after call, of pissed off customers, we had to work even on sundays, for less than 3 dollars an hour, ok, i admit it, were taking american jobs (that they dont want in the first place) but a job is a job. well not only do we get paid shit, but they screwed us around with our money.for us to make that crappy salary we need to get bonuses, which not only are hard to get, but theire very easy to lose, we get the calls taped, and for every single thing that we dont do THE WAY THEY WANT US TO, we get points of for quality, if we get bad quality scores that means less money, we also have to send surveys to the callers, in which they can see that our real names arent john, or christine, but juan, cristina, and so on…but anyway, the thing is that in those surveys, pissed off customers dont care if you helped them, they just want to give bad feedback to vonage, and of course the poor agents get bad surveys, even when they gave a good service, and bad surveys mean LESS bonuses, less money, its the biggest fraud ever, and lets not even get started on the vonage service itself…it totally sucks, ok, i admit it, its a good idea, and the price isnt that bad, but wow, ive never seen that many problems with a telephone service, the sound quality is awful, it lowers up your internet speed, you cant hear people, people cant hear you, and technichal support is TERRIBLE! its in the phillipines, and, nothing against them, theire very nice people, and there are some great reps also, but in general theire REALLY hard to understand, and i imagine that the service is that bad because they get trainings as bad as ours, and about billing… dont even get me started!!! oh my god, ive never seen so many hidden charges, its just amazing. i will tell you only one good thing about vonage, and if youre a customer and you want to get at least one advantage from their terrible service you should know this, vonage gives credits very easily, you just have to call and say that the service sucks, or that you want to cancel, and they can offer cheaper plans, or a couple of months for free, so… give it a try, i guarantee that you can ripp them off the same way the that they ripp off you. i just dont get tired of speaking terribly about this terrible company, it was such a frustrating experience, not only for me but for the poor customers, if youre still not a customer, get away from this awfull service, i hope this helps you out.

    EX General Billing Customer Service Representative

  • http://www.voicereports.com NG

    Rather than rehash my entire experience, i submitted my negative review of Vonage at the Voice Reports website at

    http://www.voicereports.com/review/vonage_reviews.php

  • Jeff

    Wow…it sucks to say this, but I’m glad I wasn’t alone in being treated so poorly by Vonage. Their customer service is the worst (right up there with Verizon)…and they do it with such a pleasant tone of voice, too.

    They do not allow you to cancel your service any way except calling them, which is a scam to begin with…seriously. So I can access my account online, make changes to my account online, view my call history online, listen to my voicemails online…BUT I CANNOT CANCEL my account online?!?! Yeah, right.

    I tried for over a month to cancel my account…and every call went the same way…”we’re sorry, sir, but we cannot cancel your account right now because our systems are down and we cannot access your account”. Bvllsh!t, how can I (customer) access my account and you (Vonage) can’t…stop lying to me.

    Plus, they refuse to call you back in those situations. I said, “fine, you can’t access my account now, call me back when you can…you have my number”. “Nope, sorry sir, we can only accept incoming calls in this office”. Bvllsh!t, you mean to tell me that there are no alarms making outgoing calls, no employees making outgoing calls…please stop playing me like an idiot. You are a communications company, of course you can make outgoing calls. That is all this company does is patronize the customer.

    The only reason their customer service exists is to make you GIVE UP, hang up, admit that they win and continue paying $30/month with no end in site. I have an easier time canceling a cell phone contract than I do canceling my Vonage account.

    Well, I finally won, if you want to call it that, granted my brain is bleeding through my ears…and I feel ten times dumber than I was earlier in the day, but I won…my account is closed…and I have the email to prove it. I feel like the kid who just won a big stuffed animal at the county fair…even though the stuffed bear is huge, you know the prize sucks…it is stuffed with newspaper that someones cat used for a litter box…but who cares, you get to walk around like a peacock with feathers in the air…”that’s right, I knocked all three milk bottles off the pedestal, and you didn’t…this is MY bear!”

    Plus, this cancellation call ended up taking nearly an hour…yeah, one hour to cancel an account, that is patronizing. She kept putting me on hold and coming back and thanking me for being a valued customer and how sad they are to see me leave. After forty-five minutes of her crap I finally let her have it. “Listen, lady, I have been pleasant and patient for three quarters of an hour…I’m done. Drop your script and speak to me like a real person, not a doll with some string to pull out of your back, got it, douche. Drop the fake pleasantries. You despise your customers and simply play them. We don’t like you either, got that. What I want now is my cancellation confirmation number so I can move on in life…I’m exhausted…I’ve resigned to the fact that I wasted my eighteen months with you…I deserve better…and I know it!”

    Okay, so I thought I won, but then they nail me with this $44 disconnect fee. Are you freakin’ serious? Yeah, they are. They will not tell you about it upfront, but anybody who signed up after Feb 2007 will be assessed a $44 cancel fee if you don’t stay two years. I checked my email order confirmation and the disconnect fee was never mentioned. I found the following buried on their website:

    “8.7 Disconnection Fee (Does Not Apply to Business Plus Customers).
    You will be charged a disconnection fee of $39.99+tax per voice line if your service is disconnected, subject to state and local laws. However, if your subscription date is on or after February 1, 2007 and is disconnected after 2 years following your subscription date, the disconnection fee is waived. If your subscription date is on or before January 31, 2007, the disconnection fee is waived if your service is disconnected 1 year following your subscription date.”

    My suggestion, stay FAR AWAY from VONAGE…you will never get out.

  • http://blogs.businessweek.com/mt/mt-tb.cgi/5019.1413213107 Suman Kumar

    I got a referal from my friend and he mentioned there is no installation charge for referal.

    I did a big mistake by calling Vonage CustomerCare in Nov 2008. I rejected for the new referal connection as i was not interestd in payng the installation charge.

    Sometime in Dec-2008,Vonage sent the router to my old address. By then, i have already moved to Oklahoma from Boston.

    I found my Credit Card account getting charged every month. I called vonage (more than 30 times) to cancel my account. They were not able to validate my account. All thier security Questions are really Stupid or System is not able to validate it properly. I was providing the Last amount billed as per my Credit Card Statement(As mentione below) but they were not able to validate my account. Later on , They realized my mailID was not entered correctly into the system during account creation process thats why i was not getting any Email.

    After more than 30 calls , I was able to cancel the account to stop every month Bill(services Which i never used and i never asked for). I was charged for the cancellation also.

    Vonage Customer Care Infrastructure and personal are horrible and very frustrating. My Case is not resolved in more than 4 months.

    I requested Vonage to go thru all the info and refund my amount as soon as possible. I am so frustrated with Vonage.I am planning to go for legal and will go for any any extent to get my refund and all mental Harrasment.Guys, Help me.

    VONAGE CUSTOMER SERVICE IS HORRIBLE AND FRUSTRATING.

  • http://consumerist.com/consumer/telephony$%3E/index.php#269404 Consumerist

    Vonage: Sorry, You Can’t Cancel Without Speaking To The Retention Department

    Mark tried to cancel his Vonage service outside of normal business hours, but Vonage would not let him cancel unless he called back to speak with the customer retention department. Mark had tried to call the previous day during business…

  • Hate Vonage

    Their customer service blows. I was with them for 4 years and when I called to cancel, they gave me the run around and wouldn’t refund or even prorate a charge that was made to my account yesterday.

  • http://www.magicjackinternetphone.com/What-is-MagicJack-Phone.html TWEDMJLOVE

    I have read a lot of comments and horror stories about trying to cancel Vonage. I started to fill out an application but stopped. I had decided to look into other internet phone services first. I had been paying 60 bucks plus a month and wanted to find something cheaper but didn’t want to be stuck with a contract.

    My son told me about a product called Magic Jack Internet Phone. This mechanism plugs into your computer and you plug your analog phone into it and you then can call anywhere in the US for free. You get a entire year of phone service and the device for $40.00. If it didn’t work then all I am out is $40.00, but if it did goodby phone bill. I have been using the Magic Jack Internet Phone ever since and love it. So if you are worried about contracts and cancelation fees then you may want to check out Magic Jack.